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@ -119,8 +119,164 @@ generally do not care for the url length.
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Browser compatibility list (send more results to pcg@goof.com ;)
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Netscape 4.x works in any setting
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Netscape 3.x displays broken image icons
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Netscape 4.x works on some configurations, not on others
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Lynx displays the base64 code as text :(
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MSIE 4 thousands of error messages in dialog boxes ;->
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MSIE 5 shows broken image icon
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=for nobody
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<schmorp> yosh: cvs.gimp.org
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<yosh> I mean which "removed debugging crap" one
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<schmorp> yosh: or did you mean the debugging code in the Perl-Server?
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<yosh> yah
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<yosh> debian's perl whines about using -D since it's not compiled with -DDEBUGGING
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<schmorp> yosh: ah.. I it was ebing queried..
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<schmorp> yosh: yeah, but you did not see the <STDIN> that required people to press enter in colorhtml ;)
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<schmorp> anybody here with netscape 3.0? or msie 5.0? or any other graphical browser?
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<yosh> schmorp: it was in innerbevel, you must've fixed colorhtml before I had a chance to update
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<maswan> schmorp: ns3.0 here
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<schmorp> maswan: could you try something out? -> http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/dataurl.html
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<schmorp> maswan: what do you see, especially below "dataurl filter"
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<schmorp> yosh: at least ;->
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<maswan> schmorp: slooow....
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<Stric> schmorp, evil thingie.. I'm loading it in win98/ie on a p60 8)
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*** Nether [lealanko@myntti.helsinki.fi] is now known as Neth_ZzZ
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<schmorp> that html page contains no external links, i.e. all images are embedded
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<schmorp> and yes, the colour-changing is bogging down most browsers
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<schmorp> i want to find out how many browsers support the data: url
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<Stric> I get a gazillion of [x] broken image thingies at the bottom half
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<maswan> schmorp: embedded? I got _lots_ of broken external images on the bottom half
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<schmorp> stric: which browser?
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<maswan> http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data:image/gif;base64,
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R0lGODlhIgAiAOMAAA8UFDo/OGt9eJecj722oFxfVIl/a+vSrn5oTtiyg7qfe6SGZUlgX+LCliElIdCldCwAAAAAIgAiAAAE/vAd9dajKlV6FddY9TTd9ZzmSWkPi2quYiUsiJ4uXd+6i/e3Vk/XQpGMRVxj9
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1omnE/n8nhqUGmv2lMnXY6EWBc0rNxah8IRjQQbeouw0dhKT5+562Cevu1BpWtcPy1WYHdmT2psXn1DjYF8fmdnhJCIB4VTmlyRdE5ggZhTnIFrXX6SDaKPZpN4XAd+sXV8f1GagFmmd7ZWmKaNo5ZDs1GoTh
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k0sW5dkcGtJIeeuJ6kt7Nny7vTzXyiq2zGo7VS4NSqrdiIU8voJKLV04hypa5mB/DOw+K3qt147JQBfPLLU0Fh5IxhqdTHXh
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<Stric> schmorp, win98/ie (4? 5?)
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<schmorp> maswan: ok, so ns3.0 does not support it
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<schmorp> stric: i don't know how to find out ;9
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<Stric> schmorp, 5 appearantly...
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<schmorp> ok... ns3.0 and msie5 show broken image icons.
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<schmorp> msie displays one dialog box per link (evil)
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<schmorp> lynx errornously displays the base64 data
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<yosh> haha
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<schmorp> so only netscape 4 displays it correctly
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<yosh> that is too evil
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<yosh> tried mozilla?
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<schmorp> yosh: mozilla does not run, did not run and will probably never run
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<schmorp> yosh: everytime I come here and somebody talks about mozilla he says "well, it is quite cool"
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<schmorp> yosh: everytime _I_ try it ends in an endless loop after 5 seconds or so
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<yosh> heh
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<Stric> you must be broken then
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<schmorp> yosh: but I guess mozilla will do it as well
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<yosh> schmorp: I get broken images with NS 4.7
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<schmorp> yosh: really? thats cool... it works with ns 4.06 (here) and ns 4.6 (my friend)
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<schmorp> yosh: on linux?
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<yosh> yes
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<schmorp> yosh: i wonder why they removed support for it..
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<sjburges> I get broken stuff with 4.51
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<yosh> hey Tommer
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<Tommer> Works for me on NS 4.71 on LinuxPPC
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<Tommer> Hullo yosh
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<schmorp> tommer: really?
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<Tommer> dataurl is very cute, schmorp
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<Tommer> Yup
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* yosh tries mozilla
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<schmorp> something must be broken... 4.06 yes, 4.51 no, 4.6 yes, 4.7 no, 4.71 yes...
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<schmorp> I see a pattern...
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<Tommer> Oh, you mean the ($ver*100)%2 == (dataurl works) relation?
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<Tommer> Oh wait, 4.6 doesn't match that.
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* maswan tries ns4.61 on aix
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<schmorp> oh, that 4.6 is probably measurement error
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<Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
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<yosh> haha
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<schmorp> hmm... it works with 4.51 here....
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<maswan> eeek.
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<Tommer> how about <body background="dataurl:...">
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<schmorp> tommer: hmm... now that would be cool... it would not even need base64 encoding, and would probably work even with lynx
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<maswan> this one is sloow for some reason.
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<tc> hmm
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*** Topic change by sjburges on #gimp: its abuse html night
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<Tommer> schmorp: yes, as long as you used " everywhere you'd be fine :)
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<schmorp> maswan: "aix"....
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<tc> could it be that clinton only knows of the internet from al gore?
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<Stric> schmorp, low mhz combined with netscape on 24bpp
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<maswan> hmm.. or ssh. oops. :)
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<tc> "reduce the gap between rich and poor by giving everyone internet access"
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<Tommer> Does anyone have red+blue 3D glasses handy?
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<tc> yay clinton. you da man
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<maswan> schmorp: works on this one
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<schmorp> stric: but since netscaope can't display colour icons in 24bpp it should be much faster ;->
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<schmorp> maswan: thanks ;)
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<Stric> schmorp, I haven't had that problem on non-linux
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<maswan> hmm.. it is estimating speed at 2k/s
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<schmorp> tommer: the problem is that urls are max. 1k in size
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<Stric> schmorp, I correct that to aix/irix/solaris
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<schmorp> tommer: but on the browsers that support it, dataurls can be much longer
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<maswan> which means much time for that file
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<Tommer> schmorp: can't you specify encoding=base64 _and_ encoding=gzip?
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<yosh> hum, mozilla sucks ;)
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<schmorp> tommer: i can't specify an encoding per se. if, then it must be a netscape extension
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<schmorp> tommer: maybe image/gzip-jpg or something....
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<Tommer> schmorp: oh, so you can only specify a content type, not an encoding? I was guessing about the encoding thing.
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<maswan> 4.61 here too
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<schmorp> tommer: the base64 is specified as ";base64", so it is somethign special
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<schmorp> tommer: but since I can specify charset=xxx, maybe I can also add encoding=gzip...
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<maswan> works that too
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<schmorp> tommer: BUT... if I can use gzip, then I cna use long urls. Then I can use png, and then i don't need gzip
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<Tommer> schmorp: just think, you could put a whole site in one page with framesets and dataurl :)
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<schmorp> yosh: mozilla sucks, yes, but does it display it?
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<Tommer> How are gzip and long urls related, schmorp?
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<yosh> schmorp: it segfaults
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<yosh> ;)
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<schmorp> tommer: hmm... I'm thinking images only...
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<schmorp> tommer: if you think text then encoding=gzip makes sense
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<schmorp> tommer: I also haven'T tried wether these urls work in frameset and normal anchor elements
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<schmorp> but actually, the colorhtml filter is much more portable
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<yosh> yeah, it just takes aching long to render and scroll
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<Tommer> schmorp: how about <img lowsrc="data:image/gif;base64, ... " src="/images/foo.gif"> ?
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<schmorp> yes... maybe when this type of encapsulation becomes more often used... at least
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<schmorp> we can claim that msie is not rfc2397 compatible
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<ole_zzz> xachbot, seen dv
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<Stric> schmorp, and who will care? 8)
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<schmorp> tommer: that might even be a useful usage!!
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<JohnP> Hey!
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<Tommer> schmorp: but lowsrc is an evil Netscape invention :)
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<Stric> tigpoo
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<JohnP> tigert!
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<Tommer> schmorp: <img lowsrc="data:image/xbm;base64, ... " src="/images/foo.gif">
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<schmorp> tommer: does the lowsrc image have to have the same size/resolution?
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<Tommer> Hmm, does <img src="internal-gopher-menu"> and such work?
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<maswan> hmm.. sleep. now.
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<Tommer> schmorp: lowsrc _should_ have the same size/resolution. if you specify width and height then the lowsrc will be resized of course.
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<schmorp> tommer: .... and since it's netscaoe only we do not need to care
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<Tommer> schmorp: yes, if you're abusing HTML you may as well go whole hog.
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<schmorp> tommer: hey, it's a "proposed standard" ;)
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<yosh> heh
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<Tommer> A nice thing about NS on the Mac is that if you shrink a mono image then it renders it antialiased :)
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Tommer> Pull out your red+blue 3D glasses and go to: http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/wx/tomrcam-3d-2.jpg
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<schmorp> yosh: rfc2397 "data: url scheme"
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<schmorp> tommer: looks flashy (no 3d cam here ;)
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<schmorp> ok, bye all!
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<Tommer> ttyl schmorp
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<schmorp> sjburges: have a nice time with your new g/f!
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<yosh> interesting
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<Tommer> schmorp: you need 3D glasses
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<yosh> ok, food
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<schmorp> tommer: if you do some weird things with urls, drop me a note ;->
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<schmorp> tommer: ah, yes, _glasses_ i meant
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Marc Lehmann